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November 03, 2009

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Kevin Carson

"Who really screwed up here -- the government or private pharmaceutical companies..."

I don't think there's much difference. I've worked for both the government and evil corporations over the years, and find they're prone to chronic clusterfucks because they're all run by exactly the same kinds of mindless bureaucrats.

Giant corporations and government agencies span the whole range of possibilities from A to B. How 'bout adding a little Ivan Illich or Paul Goodman to the mix?

ZachJ

I don't understand.

Ms. Ehrenreich states that we need to socialize vaccine manufacture and distribution. Isn't this what we have already done??!! Right now the vaccines are going to the entitled elite (Corporations received vaccines before Hospitals and General Practitioners) and not the citizens themselves. There is no proof, of course, but I would not be surprised if every member of our governmental junta in D.C. is already immunized.

Ms. Ehrenrich is right about American optimism; the general public is sitting around being optimistic, waiting for the vaccine... and getting sick in the mean time.

While she is wrong in her solution. The answer is not more government. This would just create more opportunity for corruption with more self-interested puppets controling our society.

twitter.com/dailyrev

BE, I was wondering if the same connection occurred to you as to me -- I wrote this morning about the appearance of your book and mentioned that the title reminded me of that hilarious song that ends Monty Python's "Life of Brian." I'd see for myself if you mentioned it in the book, but I've been out of work for 9 months and can't afford to buy books!

Anyway, that post and the video of the ending of LoB is here: http://dailyrevolution.net/?p=8160

Swine Flu

We are in stage 6 of swine flu now. Its no time think but to act!!

Ben

I agree!! We must do SOMETHING!!! Anything, even if it turns out to be counterproductive!!!!!

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Peppernuts

Fer crapsake. H1N1 Type A is a mild influenza! You'd think it was an outbreak of Ebolavirus by the way some people are flying into hysterics.

But one thing's for sure: Big Pharma is doing a great job of creating a plague they can then Save The Vulnerable From.

We had this thing last winter. It came on fast, put us in bed, then was surprisingly mild except for the lung stuff, which made us glad we're not smokers and don't live in the city.

This winter we're taking extra good care of our immune systems. Including not getting sucked into the atmosphere of Viral Terrorism At Large (as a local AM radio wingnut called it).

It seems like such an idiotic hysteria in light of the killing rates of cars, cigarettes and pollution.

Terry Dye

Yeah, mild. Tell that to the parents who have lost their children to this flu.
Let's just hope we can be optimistic that predictions that the flu will not become the big problem it is feared to be.
Yeah, those vulnerable people are just unlucky. Too bad. Nothing to get worked up about.

Tim Warneka

Excellent post, Barbara! You're one of the few people out there writing about the cost of the vaccinations ... and how much Big Pharma is doing (and making).

Keep up the good work!

Chickensh*tEagle

Peppernuts: "Big Pharma is doing a great job of creating a plague they can then Save The Vulnerable From."

Apparently you didn't read too closely: vaccines aren't that much of a cash cow for Pharma; they make their big money off drugs to manage chronic conditions that won't be cured very soon, like diabetes, hypertension, various heart problems, and HIV.

You're also not getting the concept of public health. Vaccinating you isn't only to keep you from getting sick, it's to keep you from spreading the disease to others who may be more vulnerable. Not to mention that even if you're right about H1N1 not being so bad, we're still poorly prepared for another pandemic like that of 1918.

liberalamerican

I am surprised you completely left our one important dimension of swine flu--race. The details can be found online in various studies and one blog post.

MM

Folks wake up. How about reading the insert of the H1N1 or any other vaccine. Dr. Roby Mitchell has retracted his position on the H1N1 vaccine after reading the insert on the television show "Know the Cause". In short, the insert from the vaccine states:

- Not proven to have any effect on H1N1
- No studies to determine impact on fetus
- No studies to determine effects of H1N1 vaccine with seasonal
- Can cause neurological disorder
- Contains dangerous squalene and mercury
- Can cause fertility issues
The list goes on and on. Big pharm will make their money on the long term health implications of taking these worthless shots - therapeutic levels of C,D and cleanliness, while keeping the immune system in high order is the key to warding off illnes.

Nancy Inotowok

I don't get it. In this story I hear greed and incompetence, and another case of government acting half-assed because they don't believe government should ever run anything.

But I don't hear any optimism. To me, optimism is the belief that citizens working together change change this and make it better. This story says to me that we need more optimism and not less.

Irene Grumman

How is it the government has to accept what the companies do? They were supposed to provide updates and didn't. They did not meet goals, and now you say they didn't even use appropriate methods. All the money government has is taxpayer money. Are the contracts actually written with absolutely no consequences for failure to fulfill them?

Jane

Thank you very much. Socialism is a joke? We are already there. Only the wealthy can afford to receive the best of care. Insurance already dictates when to do what test and how often the Doctor can prescribe what test or drug the Doctor can prescribe, many do not realize that the studies of new prescriptions are on humans now for sake of our animal rites. So when you take a new drug you are charged and in the study without knowing till later the consequences. Pharmaceutical companies own the politicians and the physicians. I am sick to death to hear senior citizens say but they will cut Medicare to pay for the new healthcare reform. DAH, is Medicare not broke? Or was until we borrowed money to keep it going? Medicare operates on borrowed money. America is broke. We already operate on borrowed money. The media plays fear to Americans about the deficit…like the average American knows what a Trillion dollars will buy? I am a realist, not a pessimist.

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Thank you very much. Socialism is a joke? We are already there. Only the wealthy can afford to receive the best of care. Insurance already dictates when to do what test and how often the Doctor can prescribe what test or drug the Doctor can prescribe, many do not realize that the studies of new prescriptions are on humans now for sake of our animal rites. So when you take a new drug you are charged and in the study without knowing till later the consequences. Pharmaceutical companies own the politicians and the physicians. I am sick to death to hear senior citizens say but they will cut Medicare to pay for the new healthcare reform. DAH, is Medicare not broke? Or was until we borrowed money to keep it going? Medicare operates on borrowed money. America is broke. We already operate on borrowed money. The media plays fear to Americans about the deficit…like the average American knows what a Trillion dollars will buy? I am a realist, not a pessimist.


Arturo Skandha

Barbara, I read a great article you wrote rejecting the current load of hogwash that passes for nutritional thinking (anti-fat, anti-cholesterol). I am surprised to hear you repeating the party line that vaccines help make us safe...Another case of night=day that I seem to wake up to every day. Simply put, vaccines are dangerous, and ineffective "as fairy dust" for anything but boosting Big Pharma's bottom line. Thank God that they have failed to manufacture enough of this poison! And that the fake H1N1 hysteria has failed to take root! (no thanks to you.) But I love your stuff generally. We're all slowly extracting ourselves from a Matrix of complex lies, and people who have a big megaphone often find themselves embarrassed in public like this.

Tom Corson-Knowles

The swine flu vaccine has caused so many horrible side effects like dystonia, Guillain-Barré and more. Avoid the swine flu vaccine if at all possible!

http://healthandwellnessnewsnow.blogspot.com/

Don Salmon

Barbara has claimed that her Ph.D. in cell biology gives her sufficient knowledge to criticize the idea our thinking can have a positive effect on the immune system. Actually, since she got her doctorate in 1968 (in biology, not psychology), this would not qualify her to say anything definitive about the relationship between the central nervous system (i.e. thinking) and the immune system. Until 1972, it was almost dogma in the field of biology (and specifically, among immunologists) that there was a kind of impenetrable barrier between the mind and the immune system. The first indication that this wall was not so impenetrable came in 1972 with Dr. Robert Ader’s accidental discovery that conditioning affected the immune system. In the nearly 4 decades since Ader’s discovery, a whole field, psychoneuroimmunology (PNI), has developed, showing that in fact our attitudes (positive and negative) can have a clearly measurable effect on the immune system. One of the best – and most rigorously scientific – accounts of this field is Dr. Esther Sternberg’s, “The Balance Within”. If Barbara had simply said there is no evidence that the simplistic process of “positive thinking” – mindlessly repeating positive statements, for example – can affect the immune system, no researcher in the field of PNI would object. To my knowledge, none of these researchers have claimed a positive outcome for such a simplistic process. However, there have been, hundreds of studies showing that a change in attitude can “positively” affect – that is, strengthen – the immune system. These studies have been conducted by first rate scientists and many have been replicated.

J.C. Samuelson

It's good to see someone casting a critical eye on some aspects of positive thinking as it is often expressed. And, to a degree it's understandable that given the author's experiences that she might have a greater propensity for knee-jerk reactions to terms like "optimism." It's unfortunate, however, that she's so bitter.

I'm willing to grant that optimism for its own sake is a bad idea, but that doesn't mean optimism is to be avoided. Furthermore, I don't recall ever reading any article by any reputable professional in the cognitive sciences (to include psychology) suggesting that optimism is a prescription for healing cancer or any other disease. That it doesn't is hardly a revelation, or a reason to avoid it.

Friendship doesn't heal cancer either, but should we therefore avoid that too?

J.C. Samuelson

I stand corrected on one point - the pervasiveness of the positive thinking "movement."

It's enough to give a person sugar cramps.

gbl

I think the screw-up rests with governments and WHO, both of whom were bought by H1N1 vaccine pharma.

The most recent former head of the CDC who blithely committed a couple of nations and millions of dollars to a vaccine that has never had randomized controlled trials (therefore, we don't know if works) has been rewarded for her efforts by Merck.

http://blogs.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2009/12/mercks-new-vacc.html

gbl

Well Don, let's have the cite for that study done by first rate scientists. Make sure we get the names, because I'm going to do a search on which pharma picked up the tab for their work.

I suspect these studies are the ones used to back prescribing of antidepressants and anti-anxiety meds.

And possible too, send people running to yoga classes?
(yogaforthemindandhe3artDOT
com
The link that highlights on Don's name.)

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Well, I agree that attempts must be made towards eradication of this dreadful disease. Fir the H1N1 vaccine screw-up, I solely hold WHO responsible because it was the one who broached the topic of need for a vaccine to the governments.

orjin

I think the screw-up rests with governments and WHO, both of whom were bought by H1N1 vaccine pharma.

The most recent former head of the CDC who blithely committed a couple of nations and millions of dollars to a vaccine that has never had randomized controlled trials (therefore, we don't know if works) has been rewarded for her efforts by Merck.

nick

GBL: here are a couple free articles, not sponsored by pharma companies, reviewing the science which ehrenreich pretends does not exist.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2568977/?tool=pubmed

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2590632/?tool=pubmed

and literally hundreds more (1123 hits on pubmed for "psychoneuroimmunology," though i'm sure much of that, as with most modern reductionist science, is faulty) but i don't have the time to dig through and select articles which will not be read anyhow.

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